Posts by Sam Beli

Thanks Simon, I was begining to think I was the only one that could not get an order through on his web site. Just tried again and the error message still comes through.

Can't order on his site! I'll try to call tomorrow and tell him. If anyone reaches him sooner, please let him know that his order function is not working.

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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Earth to Dad

by professor in

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i just got an email from my jw-elder-dad (correspondence is rare).

mom & dad will not be attending my grandfather's funeral because it is a military ceremony.

the response is so borg-conceived i must quote some:.

My dad is probably older than yours. His brain is somewhat petrified (like those of many on the GB) and he is not capable of composing a letter as coherent as your dad’s (believe it or not). New thoughts and ideas are totally beyond his comprehension, yet he serves as an elder and “teaches” frequently in front of the congregation. And the WTS wonders why people don’t want to go to meetings!

As you imply, both men are prisoners of there own unwillingness to think for themselves.

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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nothing

by Mulan in

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marilyn (aka mulan).

"no one can take advantage of you, without your permission.

" ann landers.

Sam Beli

When ordering from his site I get this error:

"Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d'

Type mismatch: '[string: ""]'

/triplescent/ssl/SFLib/ship.inc, line 68 "

I wrote to Bill through the site several days ago, but have not received a reply concerning this error.

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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Shaking Hands with Death - Part 3

by Amazing in

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shaking hands with death part 3: .

the angioplasty begins: the cardiologist arrived from the other hospital, and started telling everyone what he needed.

more medical staff showed up soon after, and the room was insane ... just like on tv ... short tempers demanding this or that device or assistance, people yelling out my vital readings, and i got a brief glance of the operating room door with people in green outfits, head caps, and face masks bopping in and out.

Sam Beli

Jim said: “On 5/28 I did not discover or find Jesus, but I did find many people who are brothers and sisters who saved me … and others who called and cared ... through all their unselfish eyes, I got a glimpse of what I would like to call God.”

Isn’t it Amazing that we all once subscribed to the theology that all those wonderful, loving humans that together “saved” you from the clutches of death should and would be killed one day because they did not attend meetings at the KH?

Glad you are doing well, Jim.

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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Guardian article mentions SILENTLAMBS 6/01/02

by deddaisy in

the guardian (london) .

june 1, 2002 .

Sam Beli

Thanks for the info; do you know the author of the article?

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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A question from "Pet," a Lurker.........

by Cassiline in

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hello all i just recieved this e-mail and this lurker is asking the following questions, .

hi cassi.

i am not great at anything especially the comp.

Sam Beli

Dear Pet,

I can understand your situation better than most because I too was “in” for more than 40 years. I too raised children “in.” Unfortunately, they are still “in,” having married JWs. Their entire family is “in” so they have little room to wiggle.

I was a slow learner; I kept trying to believe that it really was the “truth,” but I kept running up against big problems including unloving and unintelligent elders while the WT was telling me in print how wonderful the elders leadership was; the constant barrage of bragging in the WT literature; the constant references to itself being “God’s Organization;” its over use of the ancient name “Jehovah,” (at my mother’s funeral the name “Jehovah” was used, I’ll bet twice in every sentence on and on for over 30 minutes), along with seldom use of the Messiah’s name. The blood issue hit my family squarely in the gut too.

So, Pet, you are not alone. Come here as often as you like read as much as possible and get yourself comvinced that JWs (WTS) does not equal “The Truth.”

These sites are helpful in getting the TRUTH about “the truth:”

Pedophile issue: http://www.silentlambs.org/

Blood issue: http://www.ajwrb.org/index.shtml

Quotes JWs want to forget: http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/

Bethel news and miscellaneous: http://www.freeminds.org/

Doctrinal issues: http://www.xjw.com/

Scholarly Essays: http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/index2.htm

Current JW News: http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/

Please let us know how you are doing.

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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Reporting Molestations to Elders

by Vitameatavegamin in

my feeling on this whole sexual abuse matter is that if a child has been or is being molested, it should be taken straight to the police.

why allow the elders to "decide" first if there is any merit to the allegations.

mainly because if the accused has committed this crime and denies to the elders, the victim is basically screwed in the eyes of the congregation.

Sam Beli

Well said, Vita.

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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Thank you for the support

by Erica in

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i can't find the words that would express how grateful i am for all the support, not only for all of you to back me on the dateline show but for my trial as well.

i don't think i would have had the courage to go through the trauma if it wasn't for all your prayers and encouragement.

dateline was a huge help for many and i know this because i have recieved quite a few calls, one from a current jdub who wants out for the safety of his 16 month old baby, i was so excited that he lifted the veil and saw it for the pure truth that it was.

Sam Beli

We are all very proud of your efforts. You have fought the fine fight. May your life, your child's life and yur entire family be blessed from this point forward.

Warm regards,

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938

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Dateline Dissapearing Act?

by cornish in

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im just starting to get this suspicious feeling.. .

why is it that there is no mention of last tuesday's sceening on the dateline page?.

all other recent shows have some sort of mention,and are even on streaming audio,prehaps they will get round to doing it for this one,but i,m sure they had the highlights to last weeks show up and running by saturday.. why am i suspicious?.

Sam Beli

As big as NBC is they may not want to spend the $$$ necessary to fend off a legal assault by the WT’s “free” legal team. As we know from the desperate father’s situation in Canada, the WT will throw as much litigation as possible at a foe since its cost of doing so is considerably less.

So, a legal challenge is not an impossibility on the WT’s part.

Sam Beli

"...religion opposes the commandments of Almighty God." Violence by J. F. Rutherford 1938